A few months ago I was chatting with Evgeny Kim about some of the reservations I had while exploring a new codeless test automation tool. He was also exploring some codeless tool options and so he invited me onto his podcast to talk about it. We chatted about a wide range of things such as challenges faced by software test engineers, the role of codeless tools and hiring problems.
It was a fun podcast with some interesting topics so I had the video translated. Watch the video or read the transcript whichever you prefer. (Sorry in advance for any mistakes.)
EVGENY KIM: All right, guys. Thank you for joining for today’s podcast session. We have a guest, Chris Kenst. He’s a QA Engineering Manager at a company, Promenade Group. Also, he’s a president of Association for Software Testing. And we’re going to talk today about the future of software test engineers. Thank you, Chris. Hi.
There are two types of schedule, which I’ll call the manager’s schedule and the maker’s schedule. The manager’s schedule is for bosses. It’s embodied in the traditional appointment book, with each day cut into one hour intervals. You can block off several hours for a single task if you need to, but by default you change what you’re doing every hour.
When you use time that way, it’s merely a practical problem to meet with someone. Find an open slot in your schedule, book them, and you’re done.
I’ve built out a team of three testers (plus myself) who each work embedded on an engineering team for a given business unit. I’m responsible for helping my team understand their respective businesses, contribute meaningfully to the team and their professional development (to name a few things). Then I help maintain and build out automated tests across three teams in two business units. In short, I’m a hands on manager with individual contributor responsibilities dealing with what feels like a split personality.